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Advice On Arrangement Of Marriage:

I thought it would be good to include a little advice on how to get one’s self married. This section is just my personal advice. Srila Prabhupad instructed that arranged marriages are best, that is the only system that he instructed us to follow. However, he has also said that without the father taking the responsibility to get the daughter married, it is almost impossible for the girl to get a good husband. In absence of father Srila Prabhupad has recommended that the temple presidents or GBC (or guru) or a person they appoint make an arrangement. Each temple has their own system. Personally he did not check astrologically for compatibility, but he has recommended this as being the Vedic system.

The point about marriage without the father is important. I have had the experience that sometimes other authorities make suggestions for arrangements that do not appear to take the person’s best interest in mind, but seem to be based on other criteria. For example, I have seen a manager try to convince a man who worked under him to marry a certain girl because the manager wanted the girl to become his secretary. The boy and girl were obviously totally mismatched. The arrangement was not at all properly based, it was not made with either the girls’ or boy’s best interest in mind. Fortunately they rejected it. Another time I have seen a boy who seemed qualified for a certain girl, the manager turned down the request because they worked in different departments and the manager didn’t want to loose his secretary. The girl was finally married to a devotee in the same department, unfortunately for them, the marriage ended in divorce a few years latter.

One mother told me that she asked a gurukula teacher to help find a husband for her daughter. The teacher had one boy who he didn’t know what to do with. He never listened to authority, he was rebellious, he was always talking and joking with the girls whenever he got a chance. He had no interest in studying. The teacher thought this was Krishna’s arrangement, he couldn’t handle the boy any longer and this mother wanted her daughter married. He told her it was "Krishna’s arrangement". Fortunately the mother completely rejected the idea. Her daughter was trained and engaged in temple service. What a total mismatch. And what a totally wrong message it would send the boys. If you want to get a nice Krishna Conscious girl for a wife, then become a total non-sense, rebel against authority and stop studying. For the girl’s reward for their devotional training, throw them to the most unqualified boys. It was all wrong. Rather, the teacher should have taken his most first-class student (who was not determined to remain brahmacari, and none of those boys were) and asked him to marry the girl. Then the other boys who want a nice wife would have had an impetus to remain serious and get fixed up.

The point I am making is that the father is the only one who has the real personal interest of his daughter in mind. That is his only concern. Therefore he is best to find the right person. As Srila Prabhupad says, without father, it is almost impossible for the girl to get a qualified husband.

What is my advice? Srila Prabhupad has said to accept what Krishna has given, and to let the authorities make the decision. He has said that generally the boys and girls, especially the girls, are generally not able to make a proper decision on their own. My advice is to follow this, but to use some personal discretion. If you are convinced that your authority has your best interest in mind, then accept what they are suggesting (although submissive inquiry to help determine that their choice is best for you may be considered wise). In smaller temples there may be fewer choices, unless a GBC is looking far and wide. If one’s initiating or instructing guru is making the arrangement, they should have your best interest at heart, but again, submissive inquiry to try and confirm that, asking why they feel their choice is best, is not a bad idea. That is IMHO (in my humble opinion :-) ).

Some times people make their own arrangements, or find someone they think they like. Marriages based on like and dislike of the bodily features and movements and character behavior are not at all good as the principle basis for marriage. It is practically impossible for a young person who is agitated by the strong urging of the senses to make an unbiased decision in these matters. Often, if the person has bodily features that attract one’s mind and senses, the mind will work its best magic to convince you that that person is the most qualified for you. Which may or may not be a fact. It is best to seek help in this from an authority.

When the choice is made on the basis of material attraction, of like and dislike, it is a very thin foundation for a marriage. As soon as some difficulty arises and one becomes disenchanted with the spouse, there is nothing for the relationship to fall back on. If attraction was the basis and one temporarily becomes un-attracted then the relationship is finished. Or as soon as someone comes who attracts you more, again finished.

The basis of a Krishna Conscious marriage must be duty. I accept this wife or this husband as my duty. I have taken a vow to be life long responsible or life long surrendered and that is now my duty to fulfill that sacred vow. It is my duty to Krishna to remain responsible and to give my children, young devotees of Krishna, the best family life they can have. That is my service, my duty. This duty never changes. No mater what happens in the marriage, even if all material attraction temporarily is gone, this duty never changes. Then the marriage will succeed.

Unfortunately many of our children have not learning this in the gurukula. I spoke with one boy, he is about 22, and was born an ISKCON devotee, his father being a disciple of Srila Prabhupad. I discussed this point with him and his response was that if he wasn’t attracted to the woman’s body, then he wouldn’t want to remain married to her. It is so sad to see that he has had no good training, or no good realization, in this matter. Material attraction will never last for long. It will fade away in hours, days, a few years, but it will never last. I pity the poor girl that would marry this young man, as that marriage will not last very long. He will base the marriage only on attraction, and he admits, as soon as the attraction is not there, he will be ready to leave.

That is so unfortunate.

I saw one report on TV several years ago where they interviewed older couples who were married for over 50 - 75 years. The idea of commitment to duty was the main underlying sentiment. They all admitted there were struggles and difficult times. But they took marriage vows seriously. The word and concept that kept coming up were duty and responsibility.

SB 3.22.11 (Marriage of Kardama and Devhuti)

Therefore please accept her, O chief of the brähmaëas, for I offer her with faith and she is in every respect fit to be your wife and take charge of your household duties.

PURPORT

The words gåhamedhiñu karmasu mean "in household duties." Another word is also used here: sarvätmanänurüpäm. The purport is that a wife should not only be equal to her husband in age, character and qualities, but must be helpful to him in his household duties. The household duty of a man is not to satisfy his sense gratification, but to remain with a wife and children and at the same time attain advancement in spiritual life. One who does not do so is not a householder but a gåhamedhé. Two words are used in Sanskrit literature; one is gåhastha, and the other is gåhamedhé. The difference between gåhamedhé and gåhastha is that gåhastha is also an äçrama, or spiritual order, but if one simply satisfies his senses as a householder, then he is a gåhamedhé. For a gåhamedhé, to accept a wife means to satisfy the senses, but for a gåhastha a qualified wife is an assistant in every respect for advancement in spiritual activities. It is the duty of the wife to take charge of household affairs and not to compete with the husband. A wife is meant to help, but she cannot help her husband unless he is completely equal to her in age, character and quality.

Srila Prabhupad says the boy and girl should be completely equal in age, character and quality. This point, made here in this purport, that the girl and boy be of ‘equal’ age is interesting, and I will explain my understanding of it.

As I have pointed out before. The girl must not be more ‘advanced’ than her husband. If the man has sudra like qualities he should not marry a girl with brahminical training and qualities. Being of equal quality and character are very important.

However, what about completely equal in age? By research we have found that Srila Prabhupad has only instructed that the boy must be ‘older’ than the girl. Time after time he has said the ideal age for the boy is 20 to 25 years and for the girl, at puberty or before. Never later than 16 years old she is to be married. Once, a devotee, Radhaballabha, specifically asked Srila Prabhupad what ages are recommended for marriage. Srila Prabhupad indicated that for the girl, before or just after puberty, no latter than 16. He asked what was the minimum age for the boy, Prabhupad said he had to be 5 years age older than the girl. Strictly, he said, the girl must not marry a boy who is younger than herself. 8 to 10 years older he said is most usual. When asked what was the maximum age difference, Srila Prabhupad said there is no maximum limit. An 80 year old man can marry a 16 year old girl.

But, best ages were 8 to 10 years older. Manu Samhita recommends the girl to be 12 and the man to be 30, 18 years difference.

He has also said that a girl should be given a child as soon after she reaches puberty as possible. That is generally 12 to 15 years old, but could even be 11. If we take this purport to mean the boy and girl should be of the ‘same’ age, then this would mean the boy would be 11 to 15 years old.

No. We know Srila Prabhupad never taught this.

Therefore, the way I understand this one statement that boy and girl should be completely equal in age is in relation with all his other instructions. We must see with eyes of shastra, so taking all other instructions into consideration, I see this to mean that the boy and girl be of ‘equal age’ to be married, in accordance with and in relationship to scriptural injunction, not in relationship to each other.

That is, a girl can be married as a child. Srila Prabhupad has said that 6 years old is not too young (don’t misunderstand, she does not live with husband until she reaches puberty, but as soon as puberty comes, she is to live with husband, according to Srila Prabhupad). That means that if a girl marries at, say 10, she will not reach puberty, say, for 3 years. So, a boy of ‘equal marriageable age’ for her would be a boy who is no less than 5 years older, or 15. That means that he will be 18 when they live together. Preferably he should be 8 to 10 years older, meaning he would be 18 or 20 when she is 10, and he would be 21 to 23 when they live together. That is considered a proper and ‘equally marriageable age’ by Vedic standards. The boy and girl are of ‘equal’ age to be married, not that they are the same age. A boy 13 and a girl 13, although being the ‘same age’ are not of equally of age to be married. A girl can be, and should be, married at that age, but not a boy. Or even 16 and 16. A girl 16 is of marriageable age, a boy at 16 is not mature enough yet. And, Srila Prabhupad says the boy must be at least 5 years older. That means they are not of ‘equal’ age to be married. The boy needs to be at least 21 to be of equal marriageable age for a girl who is 16.

So, what about a girl in her 20’s or even over 30? What is the right age for her husband? He must be no less than 5 years older. If she is 25, she should not marry anyone under 30. There is no maximum age. That means if she is 20, even a man 40 or 50 is not too old (at least technically speaking, as there is no maximum age difference limit).

There are many other quotes and references to the topic of marriage and training. And there are many other related topics that need to be studied. Some I give in the Kany Daya book. My wife would also like to add a section on how to be a good devotee mother, but the most important part we covered, and that is the mother has to set the proper example.

I will add that Srila Prabhupad has said that if the baby can be fed only the breast milk of her mother for the first 6 to 12 months, then he says that person will be healthy for life. That is very interesting. If the baby is fed only the mother’s milk, it appears that this will create such a strong healthy condition that the body will be able to maintain it’s good health throughout life. Mother’s should keep this in mind for their own children. It can seem like an inconvenience, but really, it is not. Our three children have never had a rubber nipple in their mouths ever. (Once they could hold a cup, we used those plastic cups with the hard plastic spout on them, only because they minimized the spill factor. Otherwise, in a village they would have gone from mother’s breast to a cup with no ‘bottles’ and rubber nipples ever). For over 6 months they lived only on mother’s milk, and over 12 months that was their main diet. None of the children have had any serious illnesses.

(Source:   http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarshan/dharma/training/arrangement.htm)

Also additional info and comments at:   http://www.futuresunltd.com/sudarshan/dharma/polygamy_devotees_online/needtoprotectwomen.htm)

 

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